diff --git a/README.md b/README.md
index 2886218..a4f13e7 100644
--- a/README.md
+++ b/README.md
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ mumh5 keeps the foundation and replaces the experience.
 
 - Share a screen or a window with the mumh5 users in your channel. A dialog lets you choose what to show, with a live preview, which sound goes with it and the quality, before anything is sent
 - Sound: on Linux one program or everything except mumh5 itself (through PipeWire, so viewers do not hear the voice chat twice); on Windows the whole system; in a browser what the browser offers
-- People in the channel see an indicator next to your name, on your tile and in your profile, and click to watch. Your tile shows the picture; a click makes it large with everyone else in a strip below, like a meeting. Viewers set the stream's volume
+- People in the channel see an indicator next to your name, on your tile and in your profile, and click to watch. The tiles above the chat fill a stage you can drag taller or shorter. A stream opens large, with everyone as a strip of tiles below, like a meeting, and can move to a window of its own; in the stacked layout it is just the picture, as wide as the chat. Sounds announce streams and viewers. Viewers set the stream's volume
 - No server setup and no extra account: the setup messages travel through the Mumble server, the stream goes directly between the two clients (WebRTC), up to 8 viewers. Regular Mumble clients do not see streams
 - Direct connections mean sharer and viewer see each other's IP address; mumh5 says so before the first use. Across the internet both sides need a STUN server. The browser version uses the one built into its proxy; in the desktop app you enter one in Settings, Voice (the proxy's address works there too), and none is contacted unless you do
 - Tested between two desktop instances on one machine with a test picture. Sound capture, real screens, connections across the internet, Windows and the browser build are untested
diff --git a/electron/main.ts b/electron/main.ts
index 2c5465e..8c12706 100644
--- a/electron/main.ts
+++ b/electron/main.ts
@@ -201,7 +201,11 @@ function createWindow() {
   });
 
   // Links from chat open in the system browser, never inside the app
-  win.webContents.setWindowOpenHandler(({ url }) => {
+  win.webContents.setWindowOpenHandler(({ url, frameName }) => {
+    // The stream window: an empty page the app fills with the video itself
+    if (frameName === 'mumh5-stream' && (url === 'about:blank' || url === '')) {
+      return { action: 'allow', overrideBrowserWindowOptions: { width: 960, height: 600, minWidth: 320, minHeight: 200, backgroundColor: '#000000', autoHideMenuBar: true, title: 'mumh5' } };
+    }
     if (/^https?:\/\//i.test(url)) shell.openExternal(url);
     return { action: 'deny' };
   });
diff --git a/src/App.svelte b/src/App.svelte
index eef5bc1..b12d3da 100644
--- a/src/App.svelte
+++ b/src/App.svelte
@@ -28,8 +28,8 @@
   const layout = $derived(width >= 1100 ? 'wide' : width >= 760 ? 'medium' : 'narrow');
 
   // Arrangement (Appearance setting): side is the default, classic puts the channel list right
-  // of the chat, stacked above it. Phones always use drawers.
-  const arrangement = $derived(layout === 'narrow' ? 'side' : store.settings.arrangement ?? 'side');
+  // of the chat, stacked above it. Narrow windows use drawers, except stacked, which works at any width.
+  const arrangement = $derived(store.settings.arrangement === 'stacked' ? 'stacked' : layout === 'narrow' ? 'side' : store.settings.arrangement ?? 'side');
   // The member panel sits inline only in the side arrangement on wide windows, otherwise it overlays
   const panelInline = $derived(layout === 'wide' && arrangement === 'side');
   let treeHeight = $state(Math.max(120, Number((() => { try { return localStorage.getItem('mumh5.treeHeight'); } catch { return null; } })()) || 280));
@@ -76,7 +76,8 @@
     onsettings={() => (ui.settingsOpen = true)} />
 {/snippet}
 {#snippet chat()}
-  <Chat showMenu={layout === 'narrow'} showStage={!panelInline && arrangement === 'side'} onmenu={() => (navOpen = true)} onpanel={togglePanel} />
+  <Chat showMenu={layout === 'narrow' && arrangement === 'side'} showStage={!panelInline && arrangement === 'side'} videoOnly={arrangement === 'stacked'}
+    onmenu={() => (navOpen = true)} onpanel={togglePanel} />
 {/snippet}
 
 <div class="app {layout} {arrangement}">
diff --git a/src/lib/audio/sounds.svelte.ts b/src/lib/audio/sounds.svelte.ts
index 00ff015..8e1c054 100644
--- a/src/lib/audio/sounds.svelte.ts
+++ b/src/lib/audio/sounds.svelte.ts
@@ -27,6 +27,10 @@ export const SOUND_EVENTS = [
   { id: 'userBanned', group: 'Your channel', name: 'Someone in your channel was banned', ts: 'CLIENT_WAS_BANNED_CURRENT_CHANNEL', keys: ['banned_server_currentchannel'] },
   { id: 'recordingStarted', group: 'Your channel', name: 'Someone started recording', ts: 'CLIENT_RECORDING_START', keys: ['recording_started'] },
   { id: 'recordingStopped', group: 'Your channel', name: 'Someone stopped recording', ts: 'CLIENT_RECORDING_STOP', keys: ['recording_stopped'] },
+  { id: 'shareStarted', group: 'Screen sharing', name: 'A screen share started (yours or in your channel)', ts: 'MUMH5_SHARE_STARTED', keys: ['share_started', 'stream_started'] },
+  { id: 'shareStopped', group: 'Screen sharing', name: 'A screen share stopped', ts: 'MUMH5_SHARE_STOPPED', keys: ['share_stopped', 'stream_stopped'] },
+  { id: 'viewerJoined', group: 'Screen sharing', name: 'Someone started watching your screen', ts: 'MUMH5_VIEWER_JOINED', keys: ['viewer_joined'] },
+  { id: 'viewerLeft', group: 'Screen sharing', name: 'Someone stopped watching your screen', ts: 'MUMH5_VIEWER_LEFT', keys: ['viewer_left'] },
   { id: 'message', group: 'Chat', name: 'Channel message', ts: 'CHAT_RECEIVED_MESSAGE_CHANNEL', keys: ['chat_message_inbound', 'message'] },
   { id: 'privateMessage', group: 'Chat', name: 'Direct message', ts: 'CHAT_RECEIVED_MESSAGE_CLIENT', keys: ['private', 'direct', 'pm'] },
   { id: 'messageSent', group: 'Chat', name: 'You sent a message', ts: 'CHAT_SENT_MESSAGE_CHANNEL', keys: ['chat_message_outbound', 'sent'], off: true },
@@ -79,6 +83,10 @@ const TONES: Record<SoundEvent, [number, number, number][]> = {
   userBanned: [[294, 0, 0.12], [220, 0.13, 0.16]],
   recordingStarted: [[1175, 0, 0.08], [1175, 0.12, 0.08]],
   recordingStopped: [[880, 0, 0.12]],
+  shareStarted: [[523, 0, 0.07], [784, 0.08, 0.07], [1047, 0.16, 0.12]],
+  shareStopped: [[1047, 0, 0.07], [784, 0.08, 0.07], [523, 0.16, 0.12]],
+  viewerJoined: [[880, 0, 0.05], [1109, 0.06, 0.08]],
+  viewerLeft: [[1109, 0, 0.05], [880, 0.06, 0.08]],
   message: [[1047, 0, 0.06]],
   privateMessage: [[1047, 0, 0.05], [1319, 0.07, 0.07]],
   messageSent: [[1319, 0, 0.04]],
diff --git a/src/lib/icons.ts b/src/lib/icons.ts
index d9a0f6e..cffde88 100644
--- a/src/lib/icons.ts
+++ b/src/lib/icons.ts
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ export const ICON_PATHS: Record<string, string> = {
   settings: 'M4 21v-7M4 10V3M12 21v-9M12 8V3M20 21v-5M20 12V3M1 14h6M9 8h6M17 16h6',
   plus: 'M12 5v14M5 12h14',
   screen: 'M3 4h18v12H3zM8 20h8M12 16v4',
+  popout: 'M14 4h6v6M20 4l-9 9M18 14v6H4V6h6',
   expand: 'M4 9V4h5M20 9V4h-5M4 15v5h5M20 15v5h-5',
   filter: 'M3 4h18l-7 8v7l-4 2v-9z',
   info: 'M12 2a10 10 0 1 0 0 20 10 10 0 0 0 0-20zM12 11v6M12 7h.01',
diff --git a/src/lib/share.svelte.ts b/src/lib/share.svelte.ts
index c32e893..0414836 100644
--- a/src/lib/share.svelte.ts
+++ b/src/lib/share.svelte.ts
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ import { desktop, isWeb } from './native.ts';
 import { proxyStun } from './web.svelte.ts';
 import { store } from './settings.svelte.ts';
 import { ui } from './ui.svelte.ts';
+import { sounds } from './audio/sounds.svelte.ts';
 
 // Every viewer is a separate upload from the sharer
 const MAX_VIEWERS = 8;
@@ -44,6 +45,10 @@ class ScreenShare {
   private watchPc: RTCPeerConnection | null = null;
   private watchTimer: ReturnType<typeof setTimeout> | undefined;
   private assemblers = new WeakMap<Session, ShareAssembler>();
+  // Viewers whose connection came up, so leaving is only announced for those
+  private live = new Set<number>();
+  // When we entered the channel: streams already running there are not announced with a sound
+  private enteredAt = new WeakMap<Session, number>();
 
   // Plugin data needs a 1.4 server; older ones would not pass the signals on
   supported(s: Session): boolean {
@@ -81,7 +86,7 @@ class ScreenShare {
       let answered = false;
       ui.prompt = {
         title: 'Screen sharing', label: '', confirm: 'Continue', input: 'none',
-        text: 'Screen sharing connects you directly to the other person. You see each other\'s IP address, like in a video call. Only mumh5 users in your channel can watch.',
+        text: 'Screen sharing connects you directly to other participants in this channel. You see each other\'s IP address. Only mumh5 users in your channel can watch.',
         onsubmit: () => { answered = true; store.settings.shareNoticeSeen = true; store.saveSettings(); resolve(true); },
         oncancel: () => { if (!answered) resolve(false); }
       };
@@ -114,6 +119,7 @@ class ScreenShare {
     this.stream = stream;
     this.send(s, this.others(s), SHARE.on);
     s.setSharing(s.client.session!, true);
+    sounds.play('shareStarted');
   }
 
   private release(): void {
@@ -127,6 +133,7 @@ class ScreenShare {
 
   stop(): void {
     const s = this.host;
+    if (this.stream) sounds.play('shareStopped');
     if (s?.client) {
       this.send(s, this.others(s), SHARE.off);
       if (s.client.session != null) s.setSharing(s.client.session, false);
@@ -137,12 +144,14 @@ class ScreenShare {
   private dropPeers(): void {
     for (const pc of this.peers.values()) pc.close();
     this.peers.clear();
+    this.live.clear();
     this.viewers = 0;
   }
 
   private dropPeer(session: number): void {
     this.peers.get(session)?.close();
     this.peers.delete(session);
+    if (this.live.delete(session)) sounds.play('viewerLeft');
     this.viewers = this.peers.size;
   }
 
@@ -195,7 +204,11 @@ class ScreenShare {
     this.peers.set(viewer, pc);
     this.viewers = this.peers.size;
     pc.addEventListener('connectionstatechange', () => {
-      if ((pc.connectionState === 'failed' || pc.connectionState === 'closed') && this.peers.get(viewer) === pc) this.dropPeer(viewer);
+      if (this.peers.get(viewer) !== pc) return;
+      if (pc.connectionState === 'connected' && !this.live.has(viewer)) {
+        this.live.add(viewer);
+        sounds.play('viewerJoined');
+      } else if (pc.connectionState === 'failed' || pc.connectionState === 'closed') this.dropPeer(viewer);
     });
     for (const track of stream.getTracks()) {
       const sender = pc.addTrack(track, stream);
@@ -241,8 +254,12 @@ class ScreenShare {
     // Only people in our channel take part
     if (!msg || !s.client || !this.inMyChannel(s, sender)) return;
     switch (msg.type) {
-      case SHARE.on: s.setSharing(sender, true); break;
+      case SHARE.on:
+        if (!s.sharing[sender] && Date.now() - (this.enteredAt.get(s) ?? 0) > 3000) sounds.play('shareStarted');
+        s.setSharing(sender, true);
+        break;
       case SHARE.off:
+        if (s.sharing[sender]) sounds.play('shareStopped');
         s.setSharing(sender, false);
         if (this.watching?.host === s && this.watching.session === sender) this.endWatch();
         break;
@@ -260,6 +277,7 @@ class ScreenShare {
   entered(s: Session): void {
     if (!this.supported(s)) return;
     const self = s.client!.session!;
+    this.enteredAt.set(s, Date.now());
     s.clearSharing();
     if (this.watching?.host === s) this.unwatch();
     if (this.host === s) {
@@ -277,6 +295,8 @@ class ScreenShare {
       if (this.host === s) this.send(s, [user.session], SHARE.on);
       return;
     }
+    // A sharer who left or disconnected: their stream is over for us
+    if (s.sharing[user.session]) sounds.play('shareStopped');
     s.setSharing(user.session, false);
     if (this.host === s) this.dropPeer(user.session);
     if (this.watching?.host === s && this.watching.session === user.session) this.endWatch();
diff --git a/src/ui/AppearanceSettings.svelte b/src/ui/AppearanceSettings.svelte
index 0f823fb..5bcd4af 100644
--- a/src/ui/AppearanceSettings.svelte
+++ b/src/ui/AppearanceSettings.svelte
@@ -63,7 +63,7 @@
     </button>
   {/each}
 </div>
-<p class="help">Narrow windows always use the phone layout.</p>
+<p class="help">Narrow windows use the phone layout, except Stacked, which stays as it is.</p>
 
 <style>
   .gap { margin-top: 22px; }
diff --git a/src/ui/Chat.svelte b/src/ui/Chat.svelte
index 60b2346..e081a8d 100644
--- a/src/ui/Chat.svelte
+++ b/src/ui/Chat.svelte
@@ -7,7 +7,8 @@
   import { session } from '../lib/session.svelte.ts';
 
   // showStage: voice tiles above the chat when the window is too narrow for the member list
-  let { onmenu, onpanel, showMenu, showStage = false }: { onmenu: () => void; onpanel: () => void; showMenu: boolean; showStage?: boolean } = $props();
+  // videoOnly: streams as a plain picture without the tiles (stacked layout)
+  let { onmenu, onpanel, showMenu, showStage = false, videoOnly = false }: { onmenu: () => void; onpanel: () => void; showMenu: boolean; showStage?: boolean; videoOnly?: boolean } = $props();
 
   const isDm = $derived(session.view.startsWith('dm:'));
   const title = $derived(session.status === 'connected' ? session.viewTitle() : 'mumh5');
@@ -27,7 +28,7 @@
     <button class="icon-btn" onclick={onpanel} title="Members"><Icon name="users" /></button>
   </header>
 
-  {#if session.status === 'connected'}<VoiceStage always={showStage} />{/if}
+  {#if session.status === 'connected'}<VoiceStage always={showStage} {videoOnly} />{/if}
 
   {#if session.status === 'idle' && session.disconnectInfo}
     {@const d = session.disconnectInfo}
diff --git a/src/ui/VoiceStage.svelte b/src/ui/VoiceStage.svelte
index 440a25d..d96e5af 100644
--- a/src/ui/VoiceStage.svelte
+++ b/src/ui/VoiceStage.svelte
@@ -9,21 +9,24 @@
   import { voice } from '../lib/audio/voice.svelte.ts';
   import { share } from '../lib/share.svelte.ts';
   import { sessions } from '../lib/session.svelte.ts';
+  import ResizeHandle from './ResizeHandle.svelte';
 
   // People in your voice channel as tiles. Shown on windows too narrow for the member list
-  // (always), and on any window while someone in the channel shares a screen: a sharer's tile
-  // carries the picture, and clicking it puts it on a large stage with the tiles as a strip.
-  let { always = false }: { always?: boolean } = $props();
+  // (always), and on any window while someone in the channel shares a screen. A stream is shown
+  // large above the tiles, which become a strip; the tiles themselves never carry the picture.
+  // videoOnly: just the picture, as wide as the chat (stacked layout, where the channel list
+  // above already shows who is here)
+  let { always = false, videoOnly = false }: { always?: boolean; videoOnly?: boolean } = $props();
 
   const self = $derived(session.self);
   const channel = $derived(self ? session.channel(self.channelId) : undefined);
-  const people = $derived(self ? session.usersIn(self.channelId) : []);
+  const inChannel = $derived(self ? session.usersIn(self.channelId) : []);
   const here = (s: { server?: { id: string } | null } | null | undefined) => !!s && s.server?.id === session.server?.id;
 
   const watching = $derived(share.watching && here(share.watching.host) ? share.watching : null);
   const mine = $derived(share.stream && here(share.host) ? share.stream : null);
-  const anySharing = $derived(people.some(u => session.sharing[u.session]));
-  const visible = $derived(!!self && (always || anySharing || !!watching || !!mine));
+  const anySharing = $derived(inChannel.some(u => session.sharing[u.session]));
+  const visible = $derived(!!self && (videoOnly ? !!watching || !!mine : always || anySharing || !!watching || !!mine));
 
   // The picture a tile can show: our own stream, or the one we are watching
   function streamOf(s: number): MediaStream | null {
@@ -31,6 +34,10 @@
     return watching?.session === s ? watching.stream : null;
   }
 
+  // People with a stream we can show come first, then others who share
+  const rank = (s: number) => streamOf(s) ? 0 : session.sharing[s] ? 1 : 2;
+  const people = $derived([...inChannel].sort((a, b) => rank(a.session) - rank(b.session)));
+
   // Tile on the large stage
   let focus = $state<number | null>(null);
   const focused = $derived(focus != null ? streamOf(focus) : null);
@@ -45,7 +52,42 @@
       lastWatch = now;
     }
   });
-  $effect(() => { if (focus === self?.session && !mine) focus = null; });
+  // Our own stream opens large when it starts, unless another one is on the stage
+  let hadMine = false;
+  $effect(() => {
+    const has = !!mine;
+    if (has && !hadMine && focus == null && self) focus = self.session;
+    else if (!has && focus === self?.session) focus = null;
+    hadMine = has;
+  });
+  // Without tiles there is nothing to choose: the watched stream, else our own
+  $effect(() => { if (videoOnly) focus = watching ? watching.session : mine ? self?.session ?? null : null; });
+
+  // The stage is as tall as the user drags it; the tiles grow and shrink to fill it. The
+  // meeting view (one picture large) remembers its own height.
+  const stored = (key: string, fallback: number) => { try { return Number(localStorage.getItem(key)) || fallback; } catch { return fallback; } };
+  let tilesHeight = $state(stored('mumh5.stageHeight', 210));
+  let meetingHeight = $state(stored('mumh5.stageHeightMeeting', 460));
+  const maxHeight = () => Math.max(160, window.innerHeight - 220);
+
+  // Largest 16:9 tiles that fit everyone into the space, like a meeting's tile view
+  let gridW = $state(0), gridH = $state(0);
+  const GAP = 8;
+  const tileW = $derived.by(() => {
+    const n = people.length;
+    if (!n || !gridW || !gridH) return 160;
+    let best = 0;
+    for (let cols = 1; cols <= n; cols++) {
+      const rows = Math.ceil(n / cols);
+      const w = Math.min((gridW - GAP * (cols - 1)) / cols, ((gridH - GAP * (rows - 1)) / rows) * 16 / 9);
+      if (w > best) best = w;
+    }
+    return Math.max(72, Math.floor(Math.min(best, 520)));
+  });
+  // In the meeting view the tiles sit in one row of fixed height
+  const STRIP_W = 150;
+  const shownW = $derived(focused ? STRIP_W : tileW);
+  const avatar = $derived(Math.max(24, Math.min(96, Math.round(shownW * 9 / 16 * 0.45))));
 
   let collapsed = $state(load());
   function load(): boolean {
@@ -84,12 +126,115 @@
     if (document.fullscreenElement) document.exitFullscreen();
     else frame?.requestFullscreen().catch(() => {});
   }
+
+  // The large picture in a window of its own, to put on another screen. The window is an
+  // empty page that gets the same stream; sound keeps coming from the main window.
+  let popup: Window | null = null;
+  let popVideo: HTMLVideoElement | null = null;
+  let spotVideo = $state<HTMLVideoElement>();
+  let popped = $state(false);
+  function popOut() {
+    if (popup && !popup.closed) return popup.focus();
+    const w = window.open('', 'mumh5-stream', 'popup,width=960,height=600');
+    if (!w) {
+      // Refused (a pop-up blocker, or an app build that predates this). The floating
+      // picture-in-picture window needs no permission where the browser has it.
+      if (document.pictureInPictureEnabled && spotVideo) {
+        spotVideo.requestPictureInPicture().catch(() => { share.error = 'The stream could not be opened in a separate window.'; });
+      } else {
+        share.error = 'The stream could not be opened in a separate window. If your browser blocked a pop-up, allow it for this page and try again.';
+      }
+      return;
+    }
+    popup = w;
+    popped = true;
+    w.document.body.style.cssText = 'margin:0;background:#000;overflow:hidden';
+    const v = w.document.createElement('video');
+    v.autoplay = true;
+    v.muted = true;
+    v.playsInline = true;
+    v.style.cssText = 'width:100vw;height:100vh;object-fit:contain;display:block';
+    v.ondblclick = () => { if (w.document.fullscreenElement) w.document.exitFullscreen(); else v.requestFullscreen().catch(() => {}); };
+    w.document.body.replaceChildren(v);
+    popVideo = v;
+    w.addEventListener('pagehide', () => { if (popup === w) { popup = null; popVideo = null; popped = false; } });
+  }
+  function popIn() {
+    popup?.close();
+    popup = null;
+    popVideo = null;
+    popped = false;
+  }
+  // The window follows the picture on the stage and closes with it
+  $effect(() => {
+    const stream = focused;
+    const title = focus === self?.session ? 'Your screen' : focusUser ? store.displayName(focusUser) : 'Screen share';
+    if (!popped) return;
+    if (!stream) return popIn();
+    if (popVideo && popVideo.srcObject !== stream) popVideo.srcObject = stream;
+    if (popup) popup.document.title = `${title} - mumh5`;
+  });
+  $effect(() => () => popup?.close());
 </script>
 
 {#if share.error}<div class="bar bad" role="alert"><span>{share.error}</span><button class="btn" onclick={() => (share.error = '')}>Dismiss</button></div>{/if}
 
-{#if visible && self}
-  <section class="stage" class:meeting={!!focused} aria-label="Voice channel">
+{#snippet spot()}
+  {#if self && focus != null && focused}
+      <div class="spot" role="region" aria-label="Screen share" bind:this={frame}>
+      <div class="spot-head">
+        <Icon name="screen" size={16} />
+        <span class="spot-who">{focus === self.session ? 'Your screen' : focusUser ? store.displayName(focusUser) : 'Screen share'}</span>
+        {#if focus !== self.session && hasSound}
+          <Icon name={store.settings.shareVolume === 0 ? 'headphones-off' : 'headphones'} size={16} />
+          <input class="vol" type="range" min="0" max="1" step="0.01" bind:value={store.settings.shareVolume} onchange={() => store.saveSettings()}
+            aria-label="Stream volume" title="Stream volume" />
+        {/if}
+        {#if popped}
+          <button class="btn small" onclick={popIn}>Bring back</button>
+        {:else}
+          <button class="icon-btn" title="Open in a separate window" aria-label="Open in a separate window" onclick={popOut}><Icon name="popout" size={16} /></button>
+          <button class="icon-btn" title="Full screen" aria-label="Full screen" onclick={fullscreen}><Icon name="expand" size={16} /></button>
+        {/if}
+        {#if focus !== self.session}<button class="btn small" onclick={() => share.unwatch()}>Stop watching</button>
+        {:else if videoOnly}
+          <span class="status" role="status" title="People watching your screen">{share.viewers} watching</span>
+          <button class="btn small" onclick={() => share.stop()}>Stop sharing</button>
+        {/if}
+        {#if !videoOnly}<button class="icon-btn" title="Back to tiles" aria-label="Back to tiles" onclick={() => (focus = null)}><Icon name="x" size={16} /></button>{/if}
+      </div>
+      <!-- svelte-ignore a11y_media_has_caption -->
+      {#if popped}
+        <p class="away">Shown in a separate window.</p>
+      {:else}
+        <video bind:this={spotVideo} use:media={focused} autoplay playsinline muted ondblclick={fullscreen}></video>
+      {/if}
+    </div>
+  {/if}
+{/snippet}
+
+{#if visible && self && videoOnly}
+  <section class="stage solo" aria-label="Voice channel">
+    {#if watching?.stream}<audio bind:this={player} use:media={watching.stream} autoplay></audio>{/if}
+    {#if focused}
+      {@render spot()}
+    {:else if watching}
+      <p class="wait" class:bad={watching.state === 'failed'}>
+        <span>{watching.state === 'failed' ? 'Could not connect to the stream. Across the internet both of you need a STUN server set in Settings, Voice.' : 'Connecting to the stream...'}</span>
+        <button class="btn small" onclick={() => share.unwatch()}>{watching.state === 'failed' ? 'Close' : 'Cancel'}</button>
+      </p>
+    {/if}
+  </section>
+{:else if visible && self}
+  <section class="stage" class:meeting={!!focused} class:collapsed aria-label="Voice channel"
+    style:height={collapsed ? undefined : `${focused ? meetingHeight : tilesHeight}px`}>
+    {#if !collapsed}
+      {#if focused}
+        <ResizeHandle bind:width={meetingHeight} edge="bottom" min={240} max={maxHeight} initial={460} storageKey="mumh5.stageHeightMeeting" label="Resize the meeting view" />
+      {:else}
+        <ResizeHandle bind:width={tilesHeight} edge="bottom" min={110} max={maxHeight} initial={210} storageKey="mumh5.stageHeight" label="Resize the tiles" />
+      {/if}
+    {/if}
     <header>
       <button class="title" onclick={toggle} aria-expanded={!collapsed}>
         <svg class="caret" class:collapsed width="10" height="10" viewBox="0 0 10 10" aria-hidden="true"><path d="M2 3l3 4 3-4" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="1.6" /></svg>
@@ -102,7 +247,7 @@
         {/if}
       </button>
       {#if mine}
-        <span class="status" role="status">You are sharing your screen{mine.getAudioTracks().length ? ' with sound' : ''}{share.viewers ? `, ${share.viewers} watching` : ''}</span>
+        <span class="status" role="status" title="People watching your screen"><Icon name="screen" size={14} />{share.viewers} watching</span>
         <button class="btn small" onclick={() => share.stop()}>Stop sharing</button>
       {/if}
       <button class="icon-btn" class:on={self.selfMute} aria-label={self.selfMute ? 'Unmute' : 'Mute'} title={self.selfMute ? 'Unmute' : 'Mute'}
@@ -117,43 +262,21 @@
 
     {#if watching?.stream}<audio bind:this={player} use:media={watching.stream} autoplay></audio>{/if}
 
-    {#if focused && focus != null}
-      <div class="spot" role="region" aria-label="Screen share" bind:this={frame}>
-        <div class="spot-head">
-          <Icon name="screen" size={16} />
-          <span class="spot-who">{focus === self.session ? 'Your screen' : focusUser ? store.displayName(focusUser) : 'Screen share'}</span>
-          {#if focus !== self.session && hasSound}
-            <Icon name={store.settings.shareVolume === 0 ? 'headphones-off' : 'headphones'} size={16} />
-            <input class="vol" type="range" min="0" max="1" step="0.01" bind:value={store.settings.shareVolume} onchange={() => store.saveSettings()}
-              aria-label="Stream volume" title="Stream volume" />
-          {/if}
-          <button class="icon-btn" title="Full screen" aria-label="Full screen" onclick={fullscreen}><Icon name="expand" size={16} /></button>
-          {#if focus !== self.session}<button class="btn small" onclick={() => share.unwatch()}>Stop watching</button>{/if}
-          <button class="icon-btn" title="Back to tiles" aria-label="Back to tiles" onclick={() => (focus = null)}><Icon name="x" size={16} /></button>
-        </div>
-        <!-- svelte-ignore a11y_media_has_caption -->
-        <video use:media={focused} autoplay playsinline muted ondblclick={fullscreen}></video>
-      </div>
-    {/if}
+    {#if focused && focus != null && !collapsed}{@render spot()}{/if}
 
     {#if !collapsed}
-      <ul class="tiles" class:strip={!!focused}>
+      <ul class="tiles" class:strip={!!focused} bind:clientWidth={gridW} bind:clientHeight={gridH}>
         {#each people as u (u.session)}
           {@const stream = streamOf(u.session)}
           {@const sharing = !!session.sharing[u.session]}
           {@const isSelf = u.session === self.session}
-          <li class:wide={!!stream}>
-            <button class="tile" class:talking={talking(u.session)} class:self={isSelf} class:video={!!stream} class:focused={focus === u.session}
+          <li style:width="{shownW}px">
+            <button class="tile" class:talking={talking(u.session)} class:self={isSelf} class:focused={focus === u.session}
               onclick={() => tileClick(u.session)}
               oncontextmenu={e => menu.show(e, userMenu(u))}
-              title={stream ? (focus === u.session ? 'Back to tiles' : 'Show large') : sharing && !isSelf ? 'Sharing their screen. Click to watch' : store.displayName(u)}
-              aria-label={stream ? `${focus === u.session ? 'Shrink' : 'Enlarge'} the screen of ${store.displayName(u)}` : sharing && !isSelf ? `Watch the screen of ${store.displayName(u)}` : store.displayName(u)}>
-              {#if stream}
-                <!-- svelte-ignore a11y_media_has_caption -->
-                <video use:media={stream} autoplay playsinline muted></video>
-              {:else}
-                <Avatar name={u.name} size={44} speaking={talking(u.session)} />
-              {/if}
+              title={stream ? (focus === u.session ? 'Hide the stream' : 'Show the stream') : sharing && !isSelf ? 'Sharing their screen. Click to watch' : store.displayName(u)}
+              aria-label={stream ? `${focus === u.session ? 'Hide' : 'Show'} the screen of ${store.displayName(u)}` : sharing && !isSelf ? `Watch the screen of ${store.displayName(u)}` : store.displayName(u)}>
+              <Avatar name={u.name} size={avatar} speaking={talking(u.session)} />
               <span class="who">{store.displayName(u)}</span>
               {#if watching?.session === u.session && watching.state !== 'live'}
                 <span class="note">{watching.state === 'connecting' ? 'Connecting...' : 'Could not connect'}</span>
@@ -176,8 +299,8 @@
 {/if}
 
 <style>
-  .stage { flex: none; border-bottom: 1px solid var(--line); background: var(--bg-1); }
-  header { display: flex; align-items: center; gap: 2px; padding: 4px 8px 4px 4px; }
+  .stage { position: relative; flex: none; display: flex; flex-direction: column; min-height: 0; border-bottom: 1px solid var(--line); background: var(--bg-0); }
+  header { flex: none; display: flex; align-items: center; gap: 2px; padding: 4px 8px 4px 4px; background: var(--bg-1); }
   .title { flex: 1; min-width: 0; display: flex; align-items: center; gap: 8px; padding: 6px 8px; text-align: left; }
   .title:hover { background: var(--bg-hover); }
   .caret { flex: none; color: var(--text-faint); }
@@ -185,38 +308,46 @@
   .name { font-weight: 600; white-space: nowrap; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; }
   .count { font-size: 12px; color: var(--text-faint); }
   .mini { display: flex; gap: 3px; min-width: 0; overflow: hidden; margin-left: 4px; }
-  .tiles { list-style: none; margin: 0; padding: 0 10px 10px; display: grid; grid-template-columns: repeat(auto-fill, minmax(84px, 1fr)); gap: 6px;
-    max-height: 40vh; overflow-y: auto; }
-  .tile { position: relative; width: 100%; display: flex; flex-direction: column; align-items: center; gap: 6px; padding: 10px 4px 8px;
-    background: var(--bg-2); border: 1px solid var(--line); transition: border-color 80ms, box-shadow 80ms; }
+
+  /* Tile view: equal 16:9 tiles, centered, sized by the script to fill the stage */
+  .tiles { flex: 1; min-height: 0; list-style: none; margin: 0; padding: 8px; display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; justify-content: flex-start; align-content: flex-start; gap: 8px; overflow: hidden; }
+  .tiles li { flex: none; }
+  .tile { position: relative; width: 100%; aspect-ratio: 16 / 9; display: flex; align-items: center; justify-content: center; overflow: hidden;
+    background: var(--bg-2); border: 2px solid transparent; transition: border-color 80ms; }
   .tile:hover { background: var(--bg-hover); }
-  .tile.talking { border-color: var(--speaking); box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 1px var(--speaking); }
-  .who { max-width: 100%; font-size: 12px; color: var(--text-dim); white-space: nowrap; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; }
-  .tile.self .who { color: var(--text); font-weight: 600; }
-  .badge { position: absolute; top: 4px; right: 4px; display: inline-flex; color: var(--text-faint); }
+  .tile.talking { border-color: var(--speaking); }
+  .tile.focused { border-color: var(--accent); }
+  /* Name tag over the lower left corner */
+  .who { position: absolute; left: 4px; bottom: 4px; max-width: calc(100% - 8px); padding: 1px 6px; font-size: 12px; color: #fff; background: rgb(0 0 0 / 0.6);
+    white-space: nowrap; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; }
+  .tile.self .who { font-weight: 600; }
+  .note { position: absolute; left: 0; right: 0; top: 4px; text-align: center; font-size: 11px; color: var(--text-dim); }
+  .badge { position: absolute; top: 4px; right: 4px; display: inline-flex; padding: 2px; color: #fff; background: rgb(0 0 0 / 0.6); }
   .badge.admin { color: var(--danger); }
   .badge.live { color: var(--speaking); }
+  .failed { flex: none; margin: 0; padding: 0 12px 8px; font-size: 12px; color: var(--danger); }
 
-  /* Streams */
   .bar { flex: none; display: flex; align-items: center; gap: 8px; padding: 6px 12px; font-size: 13px; background: var(--bg-1); border-bottom: 1px solid var(--line); }
   .bar span { flex: 1; min-width: 0; }
   .bar.bad { color: var(--danger); }
   .btn.small, .bar .btn { padding: 4px 10px; font-size: 12px; flex: none; }
-  .status { font-size: 12px; color: var(--speaking); white-space: nowrap; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; min-width: 0; margin-right: 4px; }
-  .tiles li.wide { grid-column: span 2; }
-  .tile.video { padding: 0 0 6px; overflow: hidden; }
-  .tile.video video { width: 100%; aspect-ratio: 16 / 9; object-fit: contain; background: #000; display: block; }
-  .tile.focused { border-color: var(--accent); box-shadow: inset 0 0 0 1px var(--accent); }
-  .note { font-size: 11px; color: var(--text-faint); }
-  .failed { margin: 0; padding: 0 12px 10px; font-size: 12px; color: var(--danger); }
-  /* Meeting view: the chosen picture large, everyone else in one row below */
-  .stage.meeting { display: flex; flex-direction: column; max-height: 72%; min-height: 220px; }
+  .status { display: inline-flex; align-items: center; gap: 6px; font-size: 12px; color: var(--speaking); white-space: nowrap; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; min-width: 0; margin-right: 4px; }
+
+  /* Meeting view: the chosen picture large, everyone in one row below */
   .spot { flex: 1; min-height: 0; display: flex; flex-direction: column; background: #000; }
   .spot-head { flex: none; display: flex; align-items: center; gap: 8px; padding: 2px 6px 2px 12px; background: var(--bg-0); color: var(--text-dim); font-size: 13px; }
   .spot-who { flex: 1; min-width: 0; overflow: hidden; text-overflow: ellipsis; white-space: nowrap; color: var(--text); font-weight: 600; }
   .spot video { flex: 1; min-height: 0; width: 100%; object-fit: contain; background: #000; display: block; }
+  .spot:fullscreen video { height: 100%; }
+  .away { flex: 1; margin: 0; display: flex; align-items: center; justify-content: center; color: #aaa; font-size: 13px; }
   .vol { width: 110px; flex: none; padding: 0; }
-  .tiles.strip { flex: none; display: flex; overflow-x: auto; overflow-y: hidden; padding-top: 8px; max-height: none; }
-  .tiles.strip li { flex: 0 0 96px; }
-  .tiles.strip li.wide { flex-basis: 150px; }
+  /* Video only: the picture as wide as the chat, as tall as its shape asks */
+  .stage.solo { background: #000; }
+  .stage.solo .spot { flex: none; }
+  .stage.solo .spot video { flex: none; height: auto; max-height: 62vh; }
+  .stage.solo .away { flex: none; padding: 24px; }
+  .wait { margin: 0; display: flex; align-items: center; gap: 8px; padding: 8px 12px; font-size: 13px; color: var(--text-dim); background: var(--bg-1); }
+  .wait span { flex: 1; min-width: 0; }
+  .wait.bad { color: var(--danger); }
+  .tiles.strip { flex: none; flex-wrap: nowrap; justify-content: flex-start; overflow-x: auto; overflow-y: hidden; padding: 6px 8px; }
 </style>
diff --git a/test/e2e/share.e2e.ts b/test/e2e/share.e2e.ts
index 3956cee..1827506 100644
--- a/test/e2e/share.e2e.ts
+++ b/test/e2e/share.e2e.ts
@@ -72,16 +72,44 @@ try {
   };
   await picker.getByLabel('Quality').selectOption('low');
   await pickAndStart();
-  await alice.page.getByText('You are sharing your screen').waitFor();
+  await alice.page.locator('.stage .status', { hasText: '0 watching' }).waitFor();
   await alice.page.locator('.sidebar .row.user.self').getByTitle('You are sharing your screen').waitFor();
-  // The sharer's own tile shows what is being sent; clicking it makes it large
-  await alice.page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.stage .tile.self video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0, null, { timeout: 15000 });
-  await alice.page.locator('.stage .tile.self').click();
+  // The sharer sees what is being sent, large by default; the tiles themselves never carry the picture
   const ownView = alice.page.getByRole('region', { name: 'Screen share' });
   await ownView.getByText('Your screen').waitFor();
+  await alice.page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.spot video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0, null, { timeout: 15000 });
+  assert.equal(await alice.page.locator('.stage .tile video').count(), 0);
   await ownView.getByRole('button', { name: 'Back to tiles' }).click();
   await ownView.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
-  console.log('ok: sharing started from the dialog, own tile shows the stream');
+  await alice.page.locator('.stage .tile.self').click();
+  await ownView.waitFor();
+  console.log('ok: sharing started from the dialog, own stream shown large');
+
+  // Stacked layout: only the picture, as wide as the chat, and the layout stays stacked on narrow windows
+  const setLayout = async (name: string) => {
+    await alice.page.getByTitle('Settings').click();
+    await alice.page.getByRole('tab', { name: 'Appearance' }).click();
+    await alice.page.getByRole('radio', { name }).click();
+    await alice.page.getByRole('button', { name: 'Done', exact: true }).click();
+  };
+  await setLayout('Stacked');
+  await alice.page.locator('.app.stacked .stage.solo').waitFor();
+  assert.equal(await alice.page.locator('.stage .tiles').count(), 0, 'no participant tiles in the stacked layout');
+  const fits = () => alice.page.evaluate(() => {
+    const v = document.querySelector('.stage.solo video') as HTMLVideoElement, c = document.querySelector('.chat')!;
+    return v.videoWidth > 0 && Math.abs(v.getBoundingClientRect().width - c.getBoundingClientRect().width) < 2;
+  });
+  await alice.page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.stage.solo video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0);
+  assert.ok(await fits(), 'picture as wide as the chat');
+  await alice.page.setViewportSize({ width: 600, height: 800 });
+  await alice.page.locator('.app.stacked .stage.solo video').waitFor();
+  assert.ok(await fits(), 'still as wide as the chat on a narrow window');
+  if (process.env.SHOTS_DIR) await alice.page.screenshot({ path: `${process.env.SHOTS_DIR}/stacked.png` });
+  await alice.page.getByText('0 watching').waitFor();
+  await alice.page.setViewportSize({ width: 1280, height: 800 });
+  await setLayout('Modern');
+  await alice.page.locator('.stage .tiles').waitFor();
+  console.log('ok: stacked layout shows only the picture and stays stacked when narrow');
 
   // Bob connects afterwards and still learns about the stream
   await join(bob.page, bobName);
@@ -92,27 +120,52 @@ try {
   await tile.waitFor();
   console.log('ok: a late joiner sees who is sharing');
 
+  // The tiles fill the stage, and the stage can be made taller or shorter
+  const tileWidth = async () => Math.round((await tile.boundingBox())!.width);
+  const before = await tileWidth();
+  const handle = bob.page.getByRole('separator', { name: 'Resize the tiles' });
+  await handle.focus();
+  for (let i = 0; i < 8; i++) await bob.page.keyboard.press('ArrowDown');
+  await bob.page.waitForFunction(w => Math.round(document.querySelector('.stage .tile')!.getBoundingClientRect().width) > w, before);
+  const taller = await tileWidth();
+  for (let i = 0; i < 8; i++) await bob.page.keyboard.press('ArrowUp');
+  await bob.page.waitForFunction(w => Math.round(document.querySelector('.stage .tile')!.getBoundingClientRect().width) < w, taller);
+  if (process.env.SHOTS_DIR) await bob.page.screenshot({ path: `${process.env.SHOTS_DIR}/tiles.png` });
+  console.log(`ok: tiles scale with the stage height (${before} to ${taller} px wide)`);
+
   await tile.click();
   await bob.page.getByRole('button', { name: 'Continue' }).click();
   const view = bob.page.getByRole('region', { name: 'Screen share' });
   await view.getByText(aliceName).waitFor();
   await bob.page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.spot video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0, null, { timeout: 20000 });
   const size = await bob.page.evaluate(() => { const v = document.querySelector('.spot video') as HTMLVideoElement; return [v.videoWidth, v.videoHeight]; });
-  await alice.page.getByText('You are sharing your screen, 1 watching').waitFor();
+  await alice.page.locator('.stage .status', { hasText: '1 watching' }).waitFor();
   console.log(`ok: bob receives the picture (${size[0]}x${size[1]}), alice sees one viewer`);
 
-  // Like a meeting: back to tiles keeps the picture in the tile, a click makes it large again
+  if (process.env.SHOTS_DIR) { await bob.page.waitForTimeout(500); await bob.page.screenshot({ path: `${process.env.SHOTS_DIR}/meeting.png` }); }
+  // The large picture can move to a window of its own
+  const opened = bob.app.waitForEvent('window');
+  await view.getByRole('button', { name: 'Open in a separate window' }).click();
+  const streamWindow = await opened;
+  await streamWindow.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0, null, { timeout: 15000 });
+  await view.getByText('Shown in a separate window.').waitFor();
+  await streamWindow.close();
+  await view.getByRole('button', { name: 'Open in a separate window' }).waitFor();
+  await bob.page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.spot video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0);
+  console.log('ok: stream in a separate window, back when it is closed');
+
+  // Back to tiles hides the picture; the sharer's tile brings it back
   await view.getByRole('button', { name: 'Back to tiles' }).click();
   await view.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
-  await bob.page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.stage .tile.video video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0);
+  assert.equal(await bob.page.locator('.stage .tile video').count(), 0);
   await tile.click();
   await view.waitFor();
-  console.log('ok: stream in the tile, large on click');
+  console.log('ok: large view hidden and shown again from the tile');
 
   // Leaving and coming back
   await view.getByRole('button', { name: 'Stop watching' }).click();
   await view.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
-  await alice.page.getByText('You are sharing your screen', { exact: true }).waitFor();
+  await alice.page.locator('.stage .status', { hasText: '0 watching' }).waitFor();
   // The sharer's profile says so and offers to watch
   await bob.page.locator('.sidebar .row.user', { hasText: aliceName }).click();
   const profile = bob.page.locator('.panel .sharing');
@@ -127,7 +180,7 @@ try {
   await view.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
   await watch.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
   await profile.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
-  assert.equal(await alice.page.getByText('You are sharing your screen').count(), 0);
+  assert.equal(await alice.page.locator('.stage .status').count(), 0);
   console.log('ok: stopping ends the stream for viewers');
 
   // A sharer who disconnects takes the stream with them
@@ -138,6 +191,13 @@ try {
   await watch.waitFor({ state: 'detached' });
   console.log('ok: disconnecting ends the stream');
 
+  // Sounds: the sharer hears the stream start and stop and viewers come and go; the channel hears streams start and stop
+  const sounds = (p: Page) => p.evaluate(() => [...((window as any).__mumh5Sounds ?? [])] as string[]);
+  const heardA = await sounds(alice.page), heardB = await sounds(bob.page);
+  for (const ev of ['shareStarted', 'viewerJoined', 'viewerLeft', 'shareStopped']) assert.ok(heardA.includes(ev), `sharer hears ${ev}: ${heardA}`);
+  for (const ev of ['shareStarted', 'shareStopped']) assert.ok(heardB.includes(ev), `viewer hears ${ev}: ${heardB}`);
+  console.log('ok: sounds for streams and viewers');
+
   console.log('SHARE E2E PASSED');
 } finally {
   await alice.app.close().catch(() => {});
diff --git a/test/e2e/web.e2e.ts b/test/e2e/web.e2e.ts
index 5f34787..8dddc65 100644
--- a/test/e2e/web.e2e.ts
+++ b/test/e2e/web.e2e.ts
@@ -183,11 +183,11 @@ try {
   await dialog.getByRole('button', { name: 'Choose a screen or window...' }).click();
   await page.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.preview video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0, null, { timeout: 60000 });
   await dialog.getByRole('button', { name: 'Start sharing' }).click();
-  await page.getByText('You are sharing your screen').waitFor();
+  await page.locator('.stage .status', { hasText: '0 watching' }).waitFor();
   await page2.locator('.stage .tile', { hasText: name }).click();
   await page2.getByRole('button', { name: 'Continue' }).click();
   await page2.waitForFunction(() => (document.querySelector('.spot video') as HTMLVideoElement | null)?.videoWidth! > 0, null, { timeout: 30000 });
-  await page.getByText('You are sharing your screen, 1 watching').waitFor();
+  await page.locator('.stage .status', { hasText: '1 watching' }).waitFor();
   console.log('ok: screen sharing between two browsers');
 
   console.log('WEB E2E PASSED');